Panel Participation
Notes
- Deglobalisation and Fragmentation: Mid Term Challenges for Central Banks Andrew Hauser Deputy Governor Institute of International Finance Global Outlook Forum 16 April 2026 ( 15 April 2026, 4.00 pm EDT )
- – Washington, D.C. The below is an abridged transcript of Deputy Governor Andrew Hauser’s participation in the
- panel. Moderator We haven’t talked a lot about negative supply shocks. And my question for the panel, and
- I’m going to start by alphabetical order: it does seem that the world has been seeing more
- frequent supply shocks. I would say that that may be a new period for the world economy, because we
- also have more fragmentation, so they have more geopolitical events. So in that situation, how do you
- do monetary policy? How do you balance these shocks vis-à-vis your policy objectives? Andrew Hauser Thanks for the invitation. And I agree with you that the list of adverse supply shocks is
- lengthening. COVID, Ukraine, Iran, you can add climate and demographics along with that. They’re
- not all negative. I mean, the AI shock, tech shock, maybe the other way, it’s a supply shock
- still. But then the adverse supply shock is the central bankers’ nightmare, right? Because it
- pushes inflation up and it pushes activity down and causes you real challenges in managing that.
- I’d say, since I get to go first, I’ll set out a framework rather than a specific
- discussion on Australia. I put it into three broad buckets. So firstly, we need to work out how to
- analyse these shocks. That’s not as easy as it first seems. You know, we all had to become
- epidemiologists during COVID and we’re not really epidemiologists by training. Now having to
- become energy experts, understanding the nature of the shock is not something that necessarily we as
- central banks are expert at, but we need to do so. Our models are much better at describing demand
- than supply, 88 words for snow and none for rain, as it were, and identifying the difference
- between supply and demand shocks can be difficult, so that’s the analytical challenge. In terms
- of designing policy, you can’t do much to affect the first-round effects on inflation, but you
- do need to assess what the impact over the medium term will be, and you do need to bear in mind that
- it can get built into inflation expectations, which again as I say, happened in the 1970s, we
- can’t go back there. Starting conditions matter a lot. In Australia, we went into the Iran shock already running quite
- hot, and that created some challenges. If you do have capital flow, exchange rate issues as well,
- those are particularly difficult. You’ve got to explore the flexibility in your flexible
- inflation targeting regime, but you can’t do that so far that you actually let inflation
- expectations get out of control. Final point, communications. Supply shocks are a hard sell to the
- public, inflation is never going to be higher, activity is going to be lower, we’re going to be
- poorer. There’s not much upside news in that story, but you don’t get a lot of public
- support necessarily for that. That’s harder at a time when we’ve had high inflation
- already, and people are already a bit resentful about that, so you need to be clear and direct with
- people, restate the importance of stabilising inflation. You need to be very clear what you
- can’t do, because people are maybe thinking that monetary policy can solve everything, and you
- need rock solid support from governments at a time when you’re going to be making hard
- decisions. That’s actually quite a tough list in terms of setting monetary policy and lists that
- we haven’t always met in the last period. (Panel discussion) Andrew Hauser Just on this point about pre-emption. It’s easy to say that it’s pre-emptive, so long as
- you know what you’re pre-empting against. And my mind goes back to Brexit and the challenges
- that the Bank of England faced when that occurred. It looked like a pretty classical supply shock.
- However, that’s not how it played out. The adverse supply effects took a decade to come through
- the UK. It will be dealing with them now, we thought they were going to come through pretty quickly.
- Some of the more powerful adverse supply shocks that we are all experiencing now, namely, with the
- exception of the US, are not these things out of the clear blue sky, but the grinding lower effects
- of weaker productivity growth, and the lack of innovation and there’s other things which at
- least Australia are probably still the dominant policy challenge, rather than something who comes
- today and goes tomorrow. Moderator Now we can talk about a second aspect of what this type of supply shock may cause for an economy
- which have financial stability risks. So if you have supply shock is big enough, and we feel like is
- going to affect certain long-term expectations for inflation, you may want to tighten, but you may be
- causing some, or may have some undesirable effects. In the case of Australia, to think about the
- whole discussion about household balance sheets that may be hurt because of their level of
- indebtedness. So how do you see financial stability in this world of supply shocks and, and in the
- particular case of Australia, how do you deal with those? Andrew Hauser At the moment, I wouldn’t actually say in Australia that the potential adverse effects of Iran
- is to be specific on financial stability in Australia is not our biggest policy challenge. To be
- frank, households have rebuilt their balance sheets and the firms over the course of the last few
- years. The banking system in Australia is almost comically well-capitalised and highly liquid. We do
- have a large pension system which are heavily invested in the US. And that issue, I suppose, could
- come to light. I think, if I may, the more substantial financial stability risk that could arise here
- comes from this broad question of fragmentation, where I think this is a big and growing issue,
- increasingly separate pools of capital that find it hard to allocate across different countries,
- separate payment systems, walled gardens, regulatory competition and divergence. And I think
- you’re probably more likely to see sanctions and cross-border contagion, provision and liquidity
- resolution. We’ve worked so hard over the past decade or two to try and put in place imperfect,
- but more effective than before, tools for dealing with that across corporate contagion effects and in
- the world of fragmentation, I think the biggest risk for all of this is that some of those efforts,
- get into reverse. Moderator It may be too much to ask for central bank to deal with all the financial stability issues. Maybe
- there’s in this world you need more coordination of fiscal policy, industrial policy,
- regulation. What’s the role of these other policies? Andrew Hauser Well, I think here you have to be humble. I mean, it was interesting in the UK for a period, people
- thought, wow, the Bank of England can solve everything. And many of us, over the years, have been
- asked to do more and more. And actually what I think, particularly in this circumstance, and
- colleagues on the panel said have already, we have to stick to our knitting as the UK would say. We
- have to be clear that what monetary policy can do is anchor inflation and inflation expectations. It
- can’t deal with the distributional goals. It can’t make you richer, or you not richer, it
- can’t replace lost supply. Again, there’s not a lot of good news in some of this when it
- comes to monetary policy communication, that the things that monetary policy cannot do in these
- spaces far outweigh the things that we can. (Panel discussion) Moderator No, thank you very much. Actually, I have a follow up question, Are you truly concerned about in
- NFBI? I mean, like we had just a discussion last week at the BIS, and they asked me to presentation
- on private markets, the size of the sector, and the links to this. I understand that, because they
- are not, it’s not a public market, and if you don’t have an exit for that capital, through
- IPO or through other ways. You may not know the price of things. You may not know the true risk, and
- then you need to pay attention. But I don’t know if any of you are actually very concerned, or
- is just part of a broad agenda that you need to know? (Panel discussion) Moderator I think it is important to look at the risks. I don’t know if anybody else has a view? Andrew Hauser Well, as the veteran of the LDR crisis in the UK, I can tell you that the view that NBFI’s
- can’t blow you up is just wrong. You know, that all came out of a clear blue sky for the UK
- financial system, and the UK Government is still paying a premium on its debt for that error.
- [inaudible]. The problem is, you’re looking for a needle in the haystack. And so that’s the
- challenge. Moderator No, I agree. There’s a big challenge. And here we are. We are kind of hitting the issue of
- it’s a societal issue. People take risks. So if you curb risk in one side, these risks are going
- to appear in the other side. And there is something quite healthy about taking risks. By taking
- risks, how you create things and economic activity flourish. One should also think about how to deal
- with firms or people that take risks that did not succeed. And then you come back to structure polls,
- how you do with bankruptcy courts, the ability of people to kind of get back in their feet, because
- we have this relation that allowed people who took risks that didn’t work out to come back. So I
- think here is another place where structural policies matter a lot. (Panel discussion) Andrew Hauser if your point is in the developed world, one of our biggest challenges outside the US is low
- productivity growth. And it may just be the case that low productivity growth is a function of an
- unwillingness to take almost any conscious risk than you must be right. Whether financial regulation
- is the primary cause of that, I’m not sure. There’s a whole political discourse about this
- topic, isn’t there, but certainly we all need to find ways of generating innovation in our
- economy. Some of us have done it well. Many of us have not yet done it well. If that was your point,
- I think that has considerable merit.